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While top representatives from each country...
were convening at the UN to discuss global peace-keeping and security,
despite the lack of any official recognition,
the self-appointed G's from around the world...
are convening for the peace-keeping and security of global youths,
hence the Non-Summit Meeting.
We shall begin the session.
I'm the Chairman of Non Summit Meeting, Jun Hyun-moo.
- I'm Secretary General Yoo Se-yoon. - I'm Chairman Sung Si-kyung.
We are Junyoosung!
(Welcome representatives.)
We will cover each representative's issues...
and share diverse opinions.
We discuss all global issues by saying yes or no.
Agree or Disagree, What is So Important?
(Agree or Disagree, What is So Important?)
This is the issue presented by our Indian representative.
The Ganges river in India...
is causing harm to a lot of people...
due to environmental pollutions.
The public is calling for the construction of a sewage system.
I would like to hear about what you think about this issue.
The United Nations Environment Program reports that...
over 300 million people in the world are drinking contaminated water.
Every year around 3.4 million people...
are killed due to waterborne diseases.
(Contaminated drinking water is a big problem in the world.)
What's the situation with drinking water in India?
When you talk about the Ganges,
a lot of factories dump contaminated water into the river...
and also a lot of people bathe in it.
Because of this culture, the water has become contaminated.
I think this is serious.
The water in India contains a lot of lime and salt.
You can't just drink it. It will give you a stomachache if you do.
In the television commercials, they tell you to boil it before you drink it.
- They tell you this in the commercials. - I see. commercials.
In the urban areas,
it's not about whether the water is clean or not.
It's about how much water I can use. That's more important.
- It's not about the quality but the quantity. - Yes.
The general idea of not having enough water is probably something...
that is hard to understand in other countries.
- I understand it. - You do, right?
You have to understand this. In Delhi...
the water turns on for two hours in the morning and...
for two hours in the evening.
- It only comes on for two hours? - Yes.
How can we only use water for two hours in the morning?
- We can't function in our daily lives. - Yes, you'd have to save it up.
In every house in India, they have a big black plastic tank on the roof.
They save the water in there and that's how they survive throughout the day.
In summer,
people need water...
but animals need it too, right?
So the monkeys climb up to the roof,
- rip open the tank and drink the water. - Goodness.
They are water thieves.
(The monkey is stealing the water.)
(The monkey even takes a bath.)
(This is so refreshing.)
The first thing you have to do when you go to India is...
to check whether a monkey has ripped open the tank.
What is the tap water situation like in other countries?
In Japan, the water is very clean.
It's clean and a lot of people drink it.
In the case of cities like Tokyo.
People have told me to not drink the water.
The city doesn't handle the situation that well.
In the US, the tap water is well set up.
I'm very proud of the taste.
We do have a water tasting test.
They say the water in Manhattan is the best.
It's not just New York, the whole country in general has really clean tap water.
There was a big shock this year for the first time in our history.
There's a city called Flint in Michigan.
There was an incident with lead contamination in the water.
The Governor of Michigan...
said that it would be cheaper to draw water from the river rather than the lake.
The aging lead pipes had started to corrode.
The lead entered the water.
The water started to have a strange color and smell.
This became a controversy...
because a lot of people started to complain to the politicians. "What is this?"
This happened in the poor neighborhoods.
They ignored the problem for about a year.
They had ignored it for a year because...
the people who were affected were either poor or black.
This became a discriminatory problem.
This wouldn't have happened if it was a rich area.
You can drink the water from the tap in the US,
however I think it can't compare to the water in Switzerland.
We are going to have to compare tastes.
- It compare to the water in Switzerland. - I think his will be better.
- It comes from the Alps. - We are very proud of our water.
The water comes from the mountains in the Alps.
We have very stern rules when it comes to regulating our tap water.
Switzerland is also called the water tower of Europe.
There are some very important rivers in Europe, right?
For example, the Rhine goes to Germany.
The Rhone goes to France.
The river called Po goes to Italy.
For Swiss people, we believe it's our responsibility to...
keep the water clean for all Europeans.
- That's why Switzerland is called the water tower.
- You are responsible for all the water and money - Right.
- That's right. - They clean the money as well.
You clean everything.
The water in Switzerland is so clean...
that tap water is cleaner than the bottled water in the stores.
- Right. - You can buy water from the store...
but we only buy it when we need a water bottle.
We got it.
- You have to be fair. - Your drive is amazing.
Wherever you go in Switzerland, we have a lot of fountains.
- You can drink that water without any worries. - Really?
You can drink the water from the fountains.
(Opening wide)
- It must be really clean. - In Italy, we drink from the tap as well...
but the water in the Northern part that is connected to Switzerland is really tasty.
- Is that so? - It's refreshing.
The water from Switzerland could be tasty...
because it comes from the Alps.
However I believe that the water in Switzerland...
is not as clean as the water in my country.
- It's not as clean. - Come to my hometown of Lugano.
In Switzerland you have cars and factories. We have nothing.
That's why the water is really clean.
- That's why the water in my country is cleaner. - That's believable.
- My hometown is in the north. - I want to drink the water in Pakistan.
The northern part to the Himalaya.
The water in the south of Pakistan doesn't taste good.
- However the north... - The northern part...
tastes great. Even if you drink five bottles,
- you won't feel full. - Why not?
- The water is very light. - It's pure ice.
It's really pure and tasty.
But the problem is...
we have to send the water from the north to the south but we don't do that.
The population of Pakistan is 200 million.
But only 64 percent of the people have access to clean water.
Also more than 250,000 children...
under the age of five are dying due to waterborne diseases.
Almost 40 percent of the diseases that occur in Pakistan...
are waterborne diseases.
That's how bad the water situation is in the south.
A recent topic in the news in China is about...
a 13-year-old boy...
who drank tap water every day...
and they discovered a 7.5m parasite growing in his brain.
It was 7.5cm.
That became a controversial topic.
In his brain?
In Mexico, the people don't trust tap water.
- Right. - The total population in Mexico City is...
over 20 million people.
The water system isn't well maintained. Even though it's a city.
Even though it's a city.
That's why Mexico is the number one city to drink bottled water.
- Bottled water. - It's number one.
This is how much we drink. In one day,
we will have emptied over 20 million empty bottles in a day.
- The people in Mexico don't trust tap water. - They drink over 20 million bottles.
I feel like this is very serious in India and Pakistan.
- I told you I went on a trip to India, right? - Yes.
I heard about this in India,
the bottled water that they sell...
- There are lots of fake water. - a lot of fake bottles.
This is especially true with people who sell water on the trains.
People drink the water and throw the bottle away, right?
They pour water into the used bottles...
and twist back on the caps. There was a public campaign about this.
The campaign said that we should crush the bottle.
- Yes, that's why I did. - So, it can't be used.
That way it can't be used.
I drank a lot of Evian over there. It was a foreign brand so I could trust it.
- Is Evian... - You would have lost some weight.
from France or Switzerland?
- It's from France. - Evian?
It is from France but the area is right next to Switzerland.
- He's so proud. - It's next to Switzerland.
- It is French. - This is Swiss pride.
(We won't back down about water.)
I got it.
The market for carbonated water is growing...
but this has been popular in Europe for a long time, right?
It's mostly conventional carbonated water.
They don't add carbon dioxide to it.
- It's natural. - The water comes out naturally like that.
There's a lot of calcium in the water in Europe.
So it wasn't safe to drink.
That's why we heard you made a lot of alcohol.
In France the percentage of people who drink tap water...
is around 70 percent.
But this could be a problem when we are doing the dishes or the laundry.
That's a lot.
We use soup to wash...
but there isn't a lot of bubbles.
When I came to Korea, I was surprised to see a lot of bubbles.
- "There are bubbles." - It's because of the calcium.
(Korean tap water creates a lot of bubbles.)
Korea is a country where you can drink the tap water.
We call the tap water in Seoul, Arisu.
- What do you think of the water in Korea? - Be honest.
I was so shocked when I first came to Korea.
I was shocked that you could drink straight out of the tap.
- Christian, do you drink it? - I just drink from the tap.
- You do, right? - I sometimes boil it or just drink it straight.
I sometimes do as well.
It does feel like I am showing off but I drink it by pretending to be American.
(Drinking)
I hear that I have very good skin compared to my age.
I believe it's because of the water in Seoul.
- It's because there's a difference in the water. - There is a difference.
How do Chinese people find the water?
I think it's good as well because my skin is very sensitive.
If the water is not clean when I shower,
I get red lumps all over my skin. It's very itchy.
- This has never happened to me in Korea. - That's good.
- I was surprised by how cheap the water was. - Right.
The water bill...
feels like it's almost free.
- Compared to Japan. - Yes, compared to Japan.
Out of all OECD countries, Japan comes in...
at 17th highest in water charges.
Compared to Korea, it's four times more expensive.
In Germany, water is expensive, too.
You have to pay an annual default fee...
of about 100 dollars, even if you don't use a single drop.
- Even if you don't use water? - And for every 1,000 liters,
- you have to pay about two dollars. - That's expensive.
Which is why Germans...
are used to saving water.
We don't shower for only a short time.
We also drink bottled water instead of tap water...
because it's cheaper. And in restaurants,
Beer is cheaper than water.
That's nothing.
Swiss water is very expensive...
and has a peculiar charging system.
They count the number of basins you have,
coupled with the monthly water use...
to charge your water bills.
But for example, for each basin,
it costs about 50 dollars.
It's about 50 dollars.
- For each basin? - Yes, that's a default for each basin.
But you also have to add the monthly usage of water.
(You have to add the monthly usage of water, too.)
Water, electricity, and gas are public necessities in Korea.
In some countries, they are managed...
by private sectors.
Let's hear it from the representatives.
Public necessities like water, electricity, and gas...
are highly debated on whether they should be owned by the government or not.
If you think they should be managed by the government, press the button in 1, 2, 3.
Press the button.
It should be owned by the government.
Press if you think water, electricity and gas should be managed by the government.
Instead of private companies.
Right, not by the private sector.
In my opinion, it must be controlled by the government.
They shouldn't be handled by private companies.
- Why? - Gas, electricity, and water...
are absolute necessities in life.
If they get privatized,
the focus shifts from benefiting people...
- to maximizing profits. - That's right.
They'll evidently try to figure out how to save costs...
and end up cutting back...
on the facilities that affect...
the quality of water.
The quality won't get any worse because there is competition.
- That's true. - But it could be different.
If there is monopoly,
they might take full control of the price.
- Which will work against the poor. - You've pressed the button, Nik.
Government is a form of monopoly.
It takes full control of the market without any competition.
It means you agree with monopoly.
Whenever there was a privatization of...
public resources in Germany,
it worked against the general public. They were all against it.
They shouldn't privatize the whole system. It should only be half.
That way, it'll remain public while letting in competition.
- That'll be the middle ground. - But that wasn't in the question.
The government should take the lead.
Do you believe that privatization would lower the costs?
I do believe it would lower prices.
- But... - It'll affect the quality in a bad way.
they should have public elements left in the business, while letting in competition.
- It is the most simple and ideal way. - But shouldn't they control the quality?
- It should be regulated. - Yes, regulations.
But when the government is doing a good job with managing the resources,
- it's no use to privatize... - It's not like that.
Let me finish. It'll raise the prices instead.
- You could think that. - But what's more important is...
Wait a second. What's more important is...
when it's under the management of government,
the management should be transparent.
It should be open to the public.
But unless there is competition, it's impossible to compare prices.
The American way of thinking...
is that government is not apt at efficiency.
- That's true. Government can't be efficient. - Since...
they are reluctant to fire employees...
and save costs. That's why there is this hybrid system of...
letting the private companies in, while putting limitations on pricing.
For example, they can't raise price more than five percent per year.
The government monitors the prices...
- and the quality. - Right.
I believe that private companies are much more efficiently run.
I'd like to talk from a different point of view.
Those natural resources are part of the nation's infrastructure.
Each and every member of the country should benefit from this.
But once they privatize, it becomes a business.
- It's bound to leave out some people. - Right.
When it's privatized, the companies become experts in the field.
That's a big prejudice.
Why does the private company...
exist in the first place? For money.
- That's right. - That's indisputable..
It's like what Mark said earlier.
- That's why I... - Wait, let me finish.
When a telecommunication company went private in France...
five years ago,
a lot of employees committed suicide.
They couldn't handle the stress.
It became a business that puts profits first.
It doesn't mean they'll freely raise prices.
Traditionally, Indian government used to control electricity, water, and gas.
But the people were furious over their management.
The service center would put you on hold all day long.
They never answer.
That's why it was privatized in Delhi.
It solved a lot of customer complaints.
The competition helped with the quality of water.
It has become much more efficient.
In Pakistan, 65 government-controlled organizations have...
started privatization process...
two years ago.
It is being received very fondly.
It's because those organizations are operating very successfully.
Could it be only specific to the region?
Since the government has been running very poorly.
- That is true in Pakistan. - Because...
if a successful government organization goes private, it's going to cost even more.
Like Hyun-moo said,
Pakistan and India are special cases.
You could say that.
- But I'm saying that maximizing profits isn't the evil. - That's true.
The newly created profits will be re-invested in public resources.
- That's right. - But what about corruption?
- Let's talk... - I'm trying to say...
(Everyone's talking.)
When someone can't afford to pay the water bill,
how will he or she survive without water?
Even under government's management, you can't use water...
when you can't afford to pay.
- It's not a basic right. - In Japan, they don't deprive you of water.
- Really? - It's provided even if you don't pay.
I think the issue of privatization really depends...
on each country's situation.
Every country has its own issues.
They're also in different development stages.
In some countries, government-owned companies are very successful.
There are many cases when privatization failed.
Like the postal services of UK.
They also failed completely on privatizing water.
I think what's important is...
the method of privatization.
When the government sells the company,
they should charge them with appropriate pricing.
But due to government corruption in Italy,
they sold it too cheap.
It affected badly on the economy.
But in Italy, electricity and gas...
have become privatized.
It's working out really well...
because we get to choose which company.
- You can choose from the table of rates. - You can choose the plan.
For example, some companies offer cheaper prices...
during the weekends.
- You can choose according to your lifestyle. - That's nice.
It's like you're choosing your mobile plan.
Could there be a gas plan for couples?
(Gas plan for couples)
Since we're talking about public property,
what else do you wish would become public?
- I want national free Wi–Fi. - Free Wi–Fi.
I believe everyone has a right to access information.
It should be publicly shared.
- Oogi. - People drink a lot of coffee in Korea.
I wish a cup of coffee was provided for free every day.
That would be nice, since people consume a lot of coffee.
- The Korean Coffee Corporation. - Would we get coffee bills?
I wish the government would provide everyone with...
a heart rate monitor that monitors heart beats.
Like a smart watch.
- Yes, something like that. - Good idea.
When older people are alone at home,
they could get sudden heart attacks.
It'll help in those cases.
- The Korea Pulse Corporation. - It's something that can save lives instantly.
I wish everyone was provided with a house.
That would be so nice.
But what kind of house would you be given?
There will have to be a system.
- There has to be a system. - I'm still thinking about it.
Public resources are there to make lives easier for people.
Instead of regretting it after wasting them,
while we still have an abundant amount of it,
we should appreciate and save them as much.
We'll come back with Agree or Disagree next week.
(Non Summit Meeting)
Let's call out our guest for today.
This singer has a charming voice who...
has coined a popular phrase.
Only one thing has changed.
This is what's changed.
- What was that? - What did you do?
- Is that her phrase? - I have a feeling today won't be so plain.
It's Ho-ran, the singer.
(Ho-ran is the 117th representative of Korea.)
- Hello. - Welcome.
- Let's sit. - Hello.
(Everyone takes a seat.)
Hello, I'm Ho-ran, the main vocalist of Clazziquai...
and I also debuted as a solo singer last year,
and opened a new chapter in my career. It's nice to be here.
Does everyone know Clazziquai?
- I do. - Who wouldn't you know?
- He knows everyone. - He's going to say he's a fan.
- What's it all about? - He's a big fan of Yoon Jong-shin.
He says he's a fan of every guest we've had.
- He loves K-pop. - I came to know Clazziquai through an unexpected route.
When they came out with their album "Mucho Beat" in 2009,
- That's right. - the title was in Spanish.
Also the cover of their album featured...
- a traditional Mexican wrestling mask. - Right.
- So I was curious. - What exactly are you?
I'm curious about something.
- When you first debuted as a solo artist, - Yes?
I heard that you gave a concert called the "Midterm Exam".
How do they know so much?
Even my fans don't know about that.
(He could compete with Christian if he keeps this up.)
Ho-ran, could you give us the agenda today?
This is the 117th agenda. This is Ho-ran's agenda.
I've been hosting a radio program for a little over 2 years now.
That's why a lot of people send in their concerns to me.
As I talked with them, I had this thought.
Could it be that most contemporary people today...
have some form of an illness of the mind.
"I believe most contemporary people have an illness of the mind, am I abnormal?"
(I believe most contemporary people have an illness of the mind, am I abnormal?)
- You majored in psychology, right? - Yes.
I think you have a lot of interest in this area.
What kind of illness of the mind do you think you have, Ho-ran?
Me? To be honest I have many.
I'm a patient.
- I'm sure everyone has 1 or 2 illnesses of the mind. - Ho-ran the patient.
- Ho-ran the patient. - If you don't, you wouldn't be human.
In my daily life, when I meet someone...
the most difficult part is when my brain tells me, "That person won't like me."
This has a tremendous impact on my relationships.
Because I think that way,
my inferiority complex makes both people uncomfortable.
Why do you think people will dislike you?
I'm very self-assertive...
and I look intimidating as well.
I also don't hold back with my opinion on social media and I say what I feel.
They say, "Ho-ran is unlikeable." "Does she think she's the only smart person?"
I always had an inferiority complex...
but it has gotten worse due to the negative reactions.
"They are smiling but I'm sure they don't like me."
I'm always agonized by thoughts like that.
- You have an illness of the mind. - You have a tender heart.
I've also received a lot of negative comments as well.
Negative comments that are well-founded are helpful.
I read it and start to reflect on my actions.
I start to reflect on how bad of a person I was.
The negative comments that say, "Die" or attacks...
will disappear when you press the "dislike" button.
You do press it.
I do it for all of them.
I arrange them by likeability.
- "Hyun-moo is unlikable." - I do it for 20 of them.
Do you press dislike?
- Let's start by talking about Ho-ran first. - Okay.
We're going to start off with a vote.
The illness of the mind that is, "I'm afraid people will dislike me."
If you understand her, press the button.
In 1, 2, 3. Press it.
- Do I press it, too? - Yes, you can press the button as well.
Zahid and Wang Xinlin pressed it.
If it is enough to scare you,
then I believe that means you lack self-confidence.
Rather than focusing on the people that don't like you,
focus on the people that like you.
I think it's important to think positively.
Mexicans try to look at things in a positive way.
But...
although there are a lot of positives, we always focus on the negatives.
- Right. You have to work to improve that. - If I get a 100 or 1,000...
letters from my fans, and all of them love me except for one that says,
"Why did you do this?"
"I didn't like it." You focus only on that letter.
- What he is saying is true. - That's true.
That's why sometimes my confidence level drops.
However in situations like this,
even when we get praise from other people,
we don't believe they are being honest.
- He really said that well. - He's right.
- Why do you live like that? - What I find fascinating is,
why do people believe the criticism but they don't believe the praise?
It's not that they don't believe it,
The reason why they don't believe the positive praise is...
because they feel like they're just being polite.
- "I really don't like your songs." People would never say that. - What?
People would never be that rude.
If you only focus on one negative comment, isn't that also an illness?
It is an illness.
I also feel like everyone has to like me.
If they don't like me, I work really hard.
But rather than that person not liking me, it could be we just don't get along.
That thought lifted a huge burden off my shoulders.
In my opinion, there are over seven billion people in the world...
and I think it is impossible to leave...
a positive impression about you on everyone.
You can't make everyone happy.
Yes, but as I said earlier...
Nik really hates to lose.
Is Ho-ran the spokesperson.
No, I'm just saying it because I feel the same way.
With me as well,
the only time I can ignore the negative comments is...
when I am filled with confidence.
When I'm not confident,
- everything makes me feel insecure. - When I am insecure.
Nik, do you think you are a positive or negative person?
He's a negative person but...
I'm curious about what kind of person he is.
What kind of person do you think you are?
I'm a very negative person.
He's negative. Well, doesn't it make it hard to continue living?
It's because you keep focusing on the negatives.
There's nothing he can do about this.
Are you sure it's not because of the weather?
I'm sure he doesn't want to be a negative person.
If you think positively,
then instead of worrying about how the person observes you,
hope springs out from within the fear.
- It makes you work harder. - It's to show other people.
I have a question. Is it because you are a perfectionist?
- I'm not sure. - Perfectionists are like that.
Whatever I do, it has to be perfect.
Everyone has to like me.
They are like that. In Italy, a person that everyone likes is called...
"Neither fish nor fowl".
You are neither a fish nor a fowl.
The person has no identity.
He's hard to define.
- He has no special characteristics. - She already understands this.
- My head understands this. - Her head knows...
but she has an illness.
It's kind of like...
the book "Courage to Be Disliked" and...
the expression, "Haters gonna hate".
The fundamental reason why this doesn't work is because...
it's not easy to let go of the fact that someone hates you.
The words they say have an impact on me.
"Right. It was my fault."
- "It was my fault. I'm the bad person. I'm a weird person."
That's right. I'm a bad person. I keep thinking this way.
For example, "That person hates me so I'm going to that person."
If I do this,
I'm making it worse, right?
In Pakistan, it's really important for you to be able to read people's feelings.
Whatever you do, you have to think about how other people will take it.
So it makes it hard to do anything.
Do you have a word for reading people in Pakistan?
We have a word for this. This word means...
"What will people say?" That's what it means.
We don't have a word for this in English.
That's why I think Canadians are not good at this.
- We have it. - Don't you have the word in English.
- Don't you have it in English? - We don't.
- Don't you feel this way... - Sense...
because you lived overseas?
If you live in a foreign country, you have to be able to read the situation.
- Is that so? - I see. It's when we travel to another country.
- In my country... - This doesn't make sense because...
I came from Japan. In Japan, everyone tries to please everyone.
- Japan is known for that. - I feel like Korea is the same.
- Why? - What do you mean?
Does Japan and Korea do this differently?
It's the same.
In Japan, there was a saying which was very popular.
The world means...
someone who can't read the atmosphere.
If someone can't read the mood of the room, we call him "KY".
- It's like telling him to read the mood of the room. - He has no sense.
That's why we keep reading the mood of everyone around us.
- That's why I can understand her. - Did any of this help?
I'm consoled because I feel like I'm not the only one.
- Nik said something similar to me. - They are similar.
Honestly, this is all about...
how you look at yourself.
- I should stop trying to read and accommodate people. - Right.
To console each other we are going to discuss the illnesses of contemporary people.
Ho-ran said she is afraid of people, so would any of our representatives...
like to share what they think illnesses they have?
- We'll allow you to confess during this time. - Confession time.
- Everyone has an illness. - Aurelien, what illness do you have?
- I've been scared of injections since I was little. - Injections.
- Everyone fears that. - The fear of the needle.
When I see an injection needle my heart starts to pound.
- Really? - My strength disappears as well.
- How do you do fencing? - That's not an injection.
- It's like a big needle. - No, it isn't.
Isn't it a really big needle?
- What do you do when you're sick? - When I first came to Korea,
I had to do a checkup to make my alien registration card.
When I went to the hospital,
they told me to sit on a chair without a back.
I told them that there was a high possibility that I would faint.
You told them you needed a chair with a back?
They didn't have any other chairs so there was nothing we could do.
So, I sat down.
They drew some blood and I got up.
- I walked over to the bench and fainted. - Really?
That's true. My mom runs a private hospital.
People who are afraid of injections...
faint as soon as they enter the room.
This doesn't have anything to do with whether it hurts or not.
It doesn't matter if you are an adult. The body just instinctively reacts.
I'm afraid of balloons.
When it pops.
If there is a balloon around me,
I get nervous because I'm afraid that the balloon will pop.
- That's why... - Imagine if his girlfriend didn't know and had prepared an event...
(Screaming)
- That's why... - It's a panic room.
It's not just about balloons.
I hate the sound of the balloon popping.
So, when it pops like that.
I actually hate fireworks, too.
- No, - Really?
Parties are forbidden.
- Imagine if someone did an event... - Don't make this mistake on Alex's birthday.
I like looking at them.
I'm afraid of them when they explode.
My grandfather got me the...
- earplugs that they wear in the army. - The earplugs.
You must hate it when someone tries to scare you from behind.
(I don't like it.)
- He really hates it. - What about games like the man in the barrel?
- What's that? - The game where he pops out when you pull out the wrong sword.
Oh, I can't play that.
- He really hates it. - This is fun.
(Shaking his head)
I'm afraid of lightning sounds.
- I only developed the fear after I came to Korea. - You mean thunder sounds?
When I hear the thunder sounds, I think of war.
- I see. - I see.
It's become worse since my mom is always worried...
when she hears news about North Korea,
and she asks me if I want to come back to Canada.
We're clearly less sensitive about security than foreigners.
- That's true. - When North Korea launches missiles, we don't pay attention...
almost to the point of ignorance.
- That's true. - Other countries see it differently.
I'm afraid of the deep sea.
- He's afraid of the deep sea. - I don't know how to swim.
So when I go to a swimming pool...
or to the ocean, I don't want to go in.
The depth makes me very uncomfortable.
I mean, something might come out.
There are a lot of people who imagine things like that.
- Like ghosts? - Yes, something might jump out.
Once, I went scuba diving with a friend of mine.
- One of the divers attracted fish with bread crumbs. - Right.
But when a crowd of fish came rushing in, he panicked.
He escaped the water in fear.
- Because of the fish? - He felt that the fishes were after him.
- Like piranha. - It felt like piranha to him.
- I have trypophobia. - Fear of round things.
I can't see round holes gathered in one place.
Like sea urchin?
- I'm also scared of fish scales. - Fish scales.
It's related.
I can't stare at carp scales.
I used to cry as a kid when I saw scales.
It's the same with my mom.
You must have a hard time staring at one department store in Gangnam.
Yes, and when someone's face is covered with acne,
I can't see it.
He's probably in more pain.
Some people have serious acne.
(He just has trypophobia, that's all.)
- Trypophobia. - I heard that trypophobia actually doesn't exist.
- Really? - Yes, it's a form of hatred...
that is common, but some people take it further than others.
But that's not enough to be a phobia.
To certify as a phobia, first...
they have to feel like their lives are at risk when nothing is threatening them.
For example, if a rabbit causes you extreme fear, that's a phobia.
Or like Aurelien earlier,
there has to be an actual physical reaction.
Like fainting.
So hating the sound when someone scratches a black board isn't a phobia.
- Because most people don't like it. - Yes, people generally don't like that.
- I see. - When I see the wooden stick in Popsicles,
- I feel threatened. - Ice pop phobia.
- I'm sorry. - After I finish eating the Popsicle,
the wooden stick might touch my teeth.
When it does, I get goosebumps.
- Why is that? - Even talking about it is hard for me.
I don't know why. But when wood touches my teeth, I feel fear.
(That's a rare form of phobia.)
When wood touches your teeth.
I try to stay away from popsicles in general.
- You eat ice cream cone, instead. - Yes, because I'm afraid of the stick.
- So I stick to ice scream cones. - What about wooden chopsticks?
- What about wooden chopsticks? - They're difficult, too.
So when I'm having jjajangmyun, I try to find...
chopsticks made of other materials.
It can get very hard for me.
I'm afraid of women.
I'm afraid of women. It's because...
I sent an e-mail to a girl, when I was in middle school.
- But she ignored it after reading it. - She read and ignored it.
- Yes, she did. - That left you with a trauma.
That robbed me of confidence. After that, when I see women,
- I used to avoid them. - I did that, too.
- Really? - Yes.
I was scared that they might talk about me.
But when I met my first girlfriend,
I realized they are not scary.
Are you all right now?
- Right now... - Are you a Casanova?
- No, I'm not. - What did he just say?
(He's a Casanova suddenly.)
So everyone has a different set of phobias.
What is the contemporary citizens of each country suffering from?
I think it's called affluenza.
This word was just coined.
It's affluenza, short for affluent influenza.
- The Mark's disease. - What?
(Shooting him a look)
He's not talking about his own symptoms.
It's the mentality of thinking anything is possible with money.
That's why a 10-year-old man...
- Did you just say a 10-year-old? - He did?
That wasn't bad, actually.
- There was a teenager who was... - "Teenager".
drunk while driving.
There was a motor accident that ended up killing four people in the other car.
But they were sent to the courts and...
he claimed that he's been raised in a rich family...
and didn't learn how to be responsible for things.
He said he didn't know right from wrong.
He claimed his innocence that way.
- He wanted that to be taken into consideration. - What surprised me was...
- the judge punished him only so lightly. - Goodness.
It could be possible for a kid like that to lack a sense of responsibility.
If he saw growing up that problems were solved with money.
His condition was so bad that...
even though he was sentenced for only a short while,
he ran away with his mother to Mexico before he was called in.
- He didn't want to serve his time. - His mother apparently shared the disease.
They're used to thinking that they can get exempt...
- from being penalized. - What an excuse.
There's a new disease that is spreading in Mexico.
It's called Mexican Crabs.
It came to be because...
of some crabs that were being sold at a market.
Apparently there were a lot of baskets.
Every other basket had a lid on.
But the one with Mexican crabs didn't have a lid on.
So a customer when up to the merchant and asked...
and he explained that it's because...
foreign crabs wouldn't stop trying climbing out the basket.
So he had to put the lid on.
But when a Mexican crab tries to escape,
other crabs grab it and drag it down.
Just like the Mexican society.
A lot of people are jealous of other people's success, and tries to make them fail.
- That happens a lot these days. - In Mexico.
It's not because of the harsh competition.
It's more about the psychology of wanting others to fail.
It's because they don't want to compete, that they don't want anyone to excel.
- There is no improvement because of that. - Everyone is failing together.
- I see. - Some people suffer from sleep related eating disorder in Japan.
- What is it? - During the night,
they unconsciously wake up and eat food.
- It's unconscious? - Yes.
And when they wake up, they don't remember anything.
- That's too bad. - They find it out by...
being told by other members of the family.
But when they're caught in the act, they're still sleeping.
They can't answer.
And when asked if they remember about the night before in the morning,
they have no recollection of it.
Isn't it a common lie among those who are losing weight?
"You ate last night," to which they respond, "No, I didn't."
"What are you talking about?"
Japanese are obsessed with having a slim body.
It's a side effect from the pressure.
In US, there are a lot of people who suffer from bulimia and anorexia.
I don't know if they started out in US,
but these diseases only happen in countries that have more than enough food.
I'm not saying it's not a significant disease,
there is no room for such disease if you're starving.
It's one of those first world problems.
I think these diseases are very specific to US.
Burnout syndrome has been quite severe in Switzerland.
After working long hours in the office, many people are stressed out.
They wonder if they're being of any help to the organization they're in.
Switzerland is known for having one of the...
highest percentage of suicide.
One of the reasons is the burnout syndrome.
It's also a very serious problem in Germany.
It doesn't end with just office workers.
Young students also feel burned out.
We call them the Burnout Kids.
Recently in Germany, there has been a lot of pressure...
for students to get good grades to attend...
- high-level universities. - It's a lot of pressure.
Germans are known to hold back on compliments.
So the kids are losing motivation to do anything.
Many are suffering from depression...
starting from very early age.
Nik, did you not get enough compliments?
- No, I didn't. - Could it be why you're negative?
- Maybe that's why. - It could be the reason.
- Let's give him a compliment before the show ends. - Like I said,
I don't believe it.
- Did you see how negative he was being? - Right.
That's why there were two world wars.
(That's why there were two world wars.)
- That was low. - He's even more crooked.
- Aurelien is just mean. - Do you want to take a walk?
French people don't give compliments much, either.
- Which is fine. - Is that why Aurelien is like this?
What phobia does France have?
Recently in France,
people are developing administrative phobia.
When you're doing your tax, it can get really complicated...
- with too much paperwork. - It's hard.
That's why people put it off until the last minute.
In 2014, a minister in France was...
fired nine days after the cabinet has newly launched.
He was fired right away.
It was because for the past three years,
he hasn't been paying tax or the rents.
He confessed to having...
the administrative phobia.
- Did they forgive him? - It wasn't a nice thing to do.
But it's understandable. I mean,
- they require so much paperwork. - I get that he has the phobia.
But is he going to run away to Mexico on the due date?
- I get it. - Smart phone has become a necessity in our modern lives.
There is nothing you can't do with a smart phone.
There must be a disease related to it.
I'm already addicted to smart phone.
- You have another disease? - I...
have a lot of diseases.
- I'm Ho-ran, the patient. - Ho-ran, the patient.
What is it?
If he knew what it meant, that'd be odd.
I'm seriously addicted.
I can't let it off my hands.
I held onto it until the last minute just now. The worst is when I shower.
- That's when it happens the most. - When you shower.
- In a waterproof bag? - No, it doesn't feel the same.
I see.
I shower with my phone in my left hand.
- But you have to wash your hair. - Is your phone waterproof?
- No, it's not. - So you just keep distance.
I hold it like this.
I use my right hand to hold the shower head.
- But you can't wash your hair. - Then I hang the shower head on the wall.
I wash my body with my right hand.
Then I put it down for a second to wash my right arm.
- But what are you looking at? - Yes, what's so urgent?
I read many things like the news...
- or fun reads. - A video, perhaps?
I don't watch videos. I read texts and look at images.
- I read people's comments about me. - You're addiction is severe.
It's so bad that even though...
I've never dropped it in water,
I took it to the service center...
because it wasn't working.
They said it was damaged by water.
- Because of the moist? - Yes, because of the moist in the bathroom.
Do you look at it before you go to bed?
I do, and I can't just stop it at will.
When I drop it because I get drowsy, that's when I sleep.
Have you ever dropped it in your face?
Of course.
I thought my scalp was going to split in half.
I was feeling drowsy when it dropped on my face.
In India, there is a selfie disease.
According to a survey,
there were more people killed while taking selfies...
than those who were killed by sharks.
- Because they weren't paying attention. - Right, listen to the examples.
One person was trying to take a selfie with a passing train.
That person was hit by the train.
Another person aimed a gun at his head to take a selfie.
But the gun misfired because he pulled the trigger by accident.
- He got confused. - Yes, it was a mistake.
He should have taken out the bullets.
- What's wrong with them? - This selfie disease has...
caused a lot of accidents.
In Mumbai, there are 20 spots where taking selfies is prohibited.
- It's not allowed. - Selfies are also a big problem in Pakistan.
There was a huge accident.
A family of three died because of it.
The young daughter was trying to take a selfie next to a river.
She fell, and in trying to save her daughter, the mother jumped.
But she got swept away by the water.
Then the father jumped in to save the two.
- All three of them died. - Oh, no.
My mother is a psychiatric nurse at a big hospital.
And they have a rehabilitation center for drug addiction.
It's a famous one.
They eliminated the word 'drug' from the title recently.
There are so many kinds of addiction these days.
Recently, there are a lot of smart phone addicts admitted to the hospital.
I don't think she's that bad.
(Pang of guilt)
Their symptoms are so bad that they can't live without it.
- That's right. - When you take it away from them,
they yell and scream. It requires treatment.
Because of smart phones,
there is a disease called the chronic longing for emotion.
- It has intonation to it. - Chronic longing for emotion.
It's when people lose the ability to communicate face to face.
They don't know how to do it.
They don't know how to express how they feel.
When they sit around to eat,
they use their phones to communicate.
And they take a photo of the table before they eat.
They post it on their social media to brag.
It's very serious.
Do you take pictures of food?
Yes.
(You don't need to ask.)
A lot of my friends are addicted to phones, too.
There are so many. Let's say I've gathered with two of my friends.
And we're all heavy users...
of social media. When we get together...
and order, for example, raw fish,
we're all taking photos first and posting them.
For about 30 minutes, we're busy making comments on those photos.
- When we're together. - You don't talk in person.
- It's the disease. - But we're very happy.
It's the chronic longing for emotion.
What if one of you weren't like that?
- That'd be hard. - It is.
- That friend is left alone. - This is why...
there's a new phenomenon in the US...
due to these postings on social media.
Posting photos of food,
or that they've got a promotion or that they've had a child...
is all you see on other people's social media.
Among young people in US,
it has caused a lot of cases of depression.
It's because...
- they start to wonder if they're the unhappy ones. - Right.
It makes you feel relatively unfortunate.
It seems as though others are doing just fine.
- People just share the good events. - In my opinion,
Mark's instagram account is doing the same to others.
- It's true. - Why would you say that?
- He posts pictures a lot. - Pictures of hanok.
So I'm not the one with the problem.
It's important that we acknowledge...
that we're just making our lives look better than they actually are.
Still, there is such thing as class.
Even if we tried, we can't make it look as good as yours.
- That's why... - Am I right?
Mark, you're impossible.
We don't let go of our smart phones anywhere we go.
And when there's little battery left,
- we get anxious about how much is left. - When the additional battery came out,
- it was like a revolution. - It was.
When we only have 20 percent of battery left,
That's when it turns red.
- That's right. - Up until then, it's green.
- Let's assume you don't have a portable battery pack. - Right.
Does it make you anxious when you only have 20 percent of battery left?
If it does, raise your hand in 1, 2, 3.
I should raise my hand, too.
For older phones, you get only 30 seconds with 15 percent of battery left.
You never know when it'll run out.
I get anxious at 30 percent, to be honest.
No matter how much battery I have left,
I don't really respond to messages that quick.
But when I lived in New York,
I used to work at an investment bank.
My colleagues back then...
hated being constantly connected.
They were required to respond right away.
But they loved going on...
business trips. They really cherished the time on the plane.
They have a legitimate excuse to...
delay the response.
They felt so liberated by that.
It's true that it gets inconvenient when I run out of battery.
I do have the habit of looking at my smart phone.
I do not like it.
When I was working as a model, they would offer job without any notice.
When I miss the call, I lose the job.
- I'll run out of money. - Right.
That is something...
I never want to experience.
But still, I love running out of battery.
I take full advantage of those moments. Since it's not intended.
I just get on the subway or the bus...
to look at the world.
There's also this.
When I run out of battery...
and become out of reach,
other people get so worried that something might have happened to me.
If you have a girlfriend,
you might feel more anxious, since someone is eagerly waiting for you to call.
- You don't want to keep them waiting. - And these days,
not many girlfriends would believe...
that you ran out of your battery.
"Why didn't you take the portable battery?"
"You ran out of battery?"
That is unacceptable these days.
How did we survive in the old days?
We actually had no problem.
But it's undeniably a big part of our lives now.
It is. It's a rather big part of our lives.
It's true that you feel anxious when your battery runs lower than 20 percent,
but not having a charger provokes anxiety.
That drives me crazy.
It must be even more so with Lucky running a business.
I always keep it above 40 percent.
When you need to contact someone for business reasons,
but they don't answer your calls, that's a big problem.
And these days when you don't even have the portable battery,
- you can go to the convenience store for rapid charging. - Right. That was a thing.
- You still can. - You just need to pay.
These days, you can just ask to borrow the plug.
In Korea, people are quite generous about it.
But in Japan, chargers are not available like that.
And restaurants don't let you charge.
- Why is that? - It's because legally...
prohibited to use someone else's outlet.
- It's a crime. - You become electricity thief.
It belongs to the business owner.
You're the electricity thief.
I only charged five percent.
You're still guilty.
Since I visit the airports in India quite frequently,
I know where all the outlets are.
Only 1 out of 10 of them works.
I've checked them all, and most of them don't work.
At which percent do you get anxious?
When it turns red at 20 percent.
What drives me crazy the most is...
when I have the charger,
and the battery starts running out,
but there is no outlet around.
- When it starts running out. - Don't you carry a portable battery pack?
I carry the charger with me because it's lighter.
I don't like my purse getting heavy.
- I carry the charger because it's lighter. - If you're that addicted,
I think you should buy a really big one.
I think so, too.
How about a foot powered generator.
I actually did carry around a solar powered one before.
- It doesn't last long. - There's hydro powered ones.
- Excuse me? - There is a small hydro powered one.
It has a panel. So, when you put it in the water... - Like this...
the current powers it up.
- We have to work hard. - If it doesn't charge, how are we supposed to survive?
So you can charge it at a valley.
- While you have the iPhone in your hand. - Yes. "Where is the valley?"
- "Where is the valley." - If you carry a big one around, it is convenient.
It's hard to carry it around with you.
People don't like carrying around a big one.
- They only want to carry a thin one. - It's okay.
I have three. I carry it all around with me.
- The big ones? - Yes.
- I have one this big, this big and this big. - Three?
- Really? - Are they all Xiaomi?
Yes, they are.
If you are carry around three,
does that mean you don't go home?
Up to now, my cellphone's battery life has never dropped below 20 percent.
If it drops to 70 percent I turn on power-saving mode.
- You turn that on at 70 percent? - Yes.
- That's amazing. - It's because...
I feel insecure. So if it drops below 70 percent,
- I feel like I have to do something. - I think he's the most extreme.
- He is. - When it comes to battery power he is a little extreme.
When it drops below 50 percent, I feel like my phone is dead.
- Yes, that's right. - I feel like it's off.
- I feel like it's out of power. - Right.
When it goes below 50 percent. It doesn't last long.
Another illness for contemporary people is obsessive compulsive disorders.
There are many examples of obsessive compulsive disorders.
Does any of our representatives have this?
- What kind of obsessive compulsive disorder are there? - Not stepping on lines.
There are tiles on the floor, right?
I hate stepping on tiles.
Also when I cross the road,
I have to step on the white line.
How old are you?
- He just asked how old he is. - Why would you say that?
- Alex is... - I have another obsessive compulsive disorder.
When I sleep,
my whole body has to be covered in a blanket.
- You can't have your feet poking out. - Right.
It would be a problem if his legs were sticking out.
He's like a child.
- When you're young... - Yes, he's like a child.
"If your legs poke out the rat will nibble at your foot."
- You are so cute. - When I was young,
I thought a monster would kidnap me.
- Oh, my. - He lifts you up.
For me if I have a cup...
on my desk,
it has to be placed in the middle.
- It has to be at the center? - I can't stand if the cup is here.
- Why? - What if it falls down?
- I have to clean it up. - You can just do that.
I hate staying still.
I have to sit here on the show,
but I keep shaking my legs.
The scriptwriters tell me to stop doing that because the camera can catch it.
If I can't do that, I move my fingers like this.
- The directors hate that. - I do this.
If I can't even do that, then...
I keep moving this part.
- You have to keep moving. - I have to keep moving a part of my body.
When we were young we were told that your luck would run out if you did that.
- Your luck doesn't run out. - A person I know...
has allochiria. This is really fascinating.
If he scratches this part,
then he also has to scratch this part.
- He has to do both sides. - Yes, but what is interesting is...
when he grabs something hot, he cools the other hand.
- Is he stupid? - This is true.
He told me that he had fallen over, and so his left leg...
- Don't say it. - He had to think about it.
- What should I do? - Do I have to fall on the other side?
His left knee was bleeding and he had to think about it.
He told me he resisted it then. I don't have a compulsive disorder.
- He doesn't have a compulsive disorder. - People like me who likes music,
even when we do something minor,
we have a habit of turning on music before we do it.
Isn't that one? I sometimes imagine things as I do it.
Depending on the situation,
I would love to hear the background music. I imagine that.
Even on Non Summit Meeting,
there are times when no one says anything. If we had a button,
we'd press it and a laugh track would play.
A lot of comedy shows did that.
- In this era... - Try it when you edit the show.
- A laugh track of the audience. - If someone wasn't funny, they could boo.
He said he has to play music, right? In my case...
listening to music that...
- no one is paying attention to, - Music that has become noise.
whether it's from the radio or just music is really hard for me.
I have to turn everything off.
- I am the same. - You know what I mean, right?
- You don't like music becoming background noise. - Yes.
Some people turn it on because they don't like the quiet.
Even though they are not listening to it, they need the background noise.
That's too much for me.
It feels like,
there's a hose that is dripping water.
- It's on the back of my mind. - I do have a little bit of a compulsive disorder.
Even if it's dirty, rather than getting someone to clean it,
I'd rather clean it with my own hands.
I don't like people even carrying my bag for me.
It's not that I don't trust that person.
I feel grateful, but it stays at the back of my mind.
I'm sure there are many people who would like someone...
to come over and clean their house for them.
If someone were to clean my room,
would you like it or hate it?
Even if it's dirty, I'd be happy if it was dirty in my own way.
Rather than clean and organized in someone else's way.
If you don't like it, raise your hand.
Raise your hand.
- Do you hate it? - You hate someone else organizing for you.
I knew Guillaume would like it.
- Guillaume wouldn't mind if they took it after cleaning it up. - It'd be nice.
- Someone cleans for you. - I don't have to do it.
Guillaume is similar to me.
Wang Xinlin, Zahid and Guillaume are okay with this.
- There's nothing wrong with this, right? - Right.
- I mean, we know when someone... - I...
- has touched it. - Hotels are convenient, right?
It's not only good for me,
it would be a divine blessing.
It would be so nice because...
even though I shower twice a day...
and wear a mask as well.
I really don't want to clean my room.
My room is small...
- but I still hate it. - Don't you hate when people touch your belongings?
I don't mind as long as they clean it.
- They just need to clean? - Yes.
- Yes? - Don't you have problems in your daily life?
- Sorry? Daily life? - Don't you have problems in your daily life?
I don't have any perverted habits.
(We are not perverts either.)
- At his home... - How could you say that?
What could he be hiding?
He's not trying to hide something.
He's not trying to do perverted things.
This is part of my daily life and...
something I have to do.
There is something called organized chaos, right?
I know where everything is and I can find it.
When someone else organizes it for me, it becomes chaotic.
- It's chaotic. - It's neat but I don't know where everything is.
It's clean but uncomfortable.
It no longer becomes a place that I want to live in.
- Like Nik said organized chaos? - Yes, organized chaos.
My room is like that. When I was young,
I went on a family trip to Greece.
While we were away a robber came into our home.
- A robber? - A robber.
So my aunt called my mum,
"A robber came into your home."
"The worst hit room is Aurelien's room."
She said it was my room.
When I came back, my room was exactly the way I had left it.
- What? - They thought the robbers had messed up your room,
- but that was naturally the way it was. - They didn't take anything.
They probably opened my room and said, "Someone's already been here."
He thought another robber had already been here.
- The robber had come in. - He thought someone had already been there.
- Okay. - If someone else...
organizes the room. They organize it in their own style.
- That's right. - It becomes uncomfortable for me to look at.
I'm going to reorganize it into my own style.
There's no point. When I go to a hotel,
the cleaner comes in to clean, right? Before they come in...
I clean the room and leave the hotel.
- I don't do that. - I do the same.
I used to share a room with Alberto.
I would get up take a shower and leave.
But Alberto would make his bed and it would like brand new.
I felt horrible.
- I... - You felt horrible?
- Do I have to do it, too? I feel like I'm being compared. - Why doesn't he do mine?
- Why doesn't he do mine? - Alberto, why didn't you do mine?
- Alberto, why did you do it? - I don't mind when other people touch my stuff,
it's hard to find later on. That's why I like to do it.
- I think hotel cleaners like guests like me the best. - Yes, they would.
- I clean up before they come. - That's amazing.
I tidy up before I leave as well.
- He cleans and organizes the room. - Alberto,
when you and a few of the people came to my home,
you touched and moved my belongings.
I was watching you.
After you guys left, I moved everything back.
- He has compulsive obsession. - It's because...
I'm similar to Mark. But...
he doesn't have a girlfriend. Then,
a girl could feel pressured if she walks into a perfectly organized home.
That's why I did it.
That's why you pushed his stuff? Don't lie.
I was helping him.
You were trying to help him.
You were trying to help break his compulsiveness by throwing things around?
I have a question for Christian and Mark.
You could just tell them that.
You could tell them how you like your things organized.
- It still isn't the way I want it placed. - It's not perfect.
There's no way to be perfect.
You are saying that because you don't know how lucky you are.
- They don't know how lucky they are. - You should be grateful.
They don't know how lucky they are.
If I were to explain this through a joke,
people who have obsessive compulsive disorders...
are like Aladdin.
When Aladdin rubs the lamp,
the genie appears and asks him, "What is your wish?"
"Clean this lamp."
- It's a joke from India. - Gosh.
Some illnesses that contemporary people have...
are not only a personal issue but has expanded out into society.
Sometimes this can become a problem.
Has this ever become a mental problem in your countries?
A few months ago in Germany, Germanwings...
had one of their planes crash.
The co-pilot...
went to the hospital to get a check up before he went on the plane.
He was diagnosed with severe depression that needed treatment.
He hid his mental illness and went on to fly the plane.
He intentionally used the plane to commit suicide.
Around 150 people were killed.
They found out about his mental illness...
after searching his computer.
His internet history showed that he had searched words like suicide.
This led to finding about his medical history.
It's scary to think that someone like that is the pilot of an aircraft.
That is why there was controversy.
There needs to be stricter background checks..
for pilots and co-pilots.
- A stricter check is important for our safety. - Yes.
Because of that person, stricter rules are now being enforced to enter the cockpit.
- Not anyone can go in. - Actually, on a plane...
there are three pilots.
One captain and two co-pilots.
When the captain is flying, at least one of them must be on stand by.
- There must always be two pilots on duty. - Of course.
But during the accident, the captain had gone to the bathroom.
- And the junior pilot just locked the captain out of the cockpit. - He locked it.
- He couldn't get in. - Therefore,
if the person in the cockpit continues to refuse,
the stewardess can now open the cockpit as well.
The recent issue is Italy is...
a swimmer names Federica Pellegrini.
She is an Olympics gold medalist.
During the recent World Cup tryouts...
She couldn't start because she had panic anxiety.
She turned around and kept holding onto her goggles.
In the end, her coach persuaded her to compete.
- She came in first in the race. - Wow.
She is currently ranked number one in the world.
- But as she got out she started crying. - Oh, my.
But this wasn't just once. It happened 2 or 3 times.
Seeing her cry like that people started...
to realize how stressful it must be for her.
An man in India for about two months...
- swallowed folding knives. - What?
Through surgery they were able to take out about 40 knives.
- Knife? - Knife.
He says he was addicted to metal and started swallowing them.
Inside they found not only folding knifes,
- but also unfolded knives. - Oh my.
- This type of addiction. - How?
- He says he was addicted. - Why not something rounder? Why knives?
In Italy, I heard...
that a person was hospitalized because he thought he was a tangerine.
Once he started thinking that he was a tangerine,
- he couldn't do anything. He couldn't go out. - Why not?
Because he thought they'd eat him.
- That they'd make juice out of him. - Or peel him.
That someone would peel him or eat him.
This was a young person. When he was hanging with his friends,
- he did some drugs. - I see.
He was sleeping on the sofa.
Some of his friends started throwing tangerines to wake him up.
- He was under the influence and it must have been traumatic. - I see.
That was when he started thinking that he was a tangerine.
He was afraid to do anything.
He is still alive, but he is unable to do anything.
- I see. - All right.
Due to each country's unique social and cultural traumas,
there must be some behaviors that are unique to each nation as well.
Special behaviors unique to each country.
In Japan, there are many natural disasters like earthquakes.
Japanese are well equipped with emergency safe bags and emergency food supplies.
According to a survey,
they say 68% of the population are stocked with emergency goods and supplies.
I am as well fully equipped in case of a natural disaster.
I have a bag I always carry with me that has everything.
- Do you have first aid kit? - Not really.
Clothes, recharger, book, tissue paper like that.
- Really? - Yes.
Last time I was out with him. I thought he was going on a trip or something.
- He had a big bag. - I overdo it a little.
- I carry it with me everywhere. - I see.
I wish I had one more thing to make my safety package perfect.
A pocket manual generator.
You can manually use it for electrical appliances.
You can recharge it without a any cords.
In Swiss there are many snow avalanches in the winter.
The snow avalanches...
- are the cause of many deaths. - I see.
That is why these days, people carry a tracker in case of snow avalanches.
If you get buried in snow during an avalanche...
and if someone else also has a tracker,
- it will beep louder as the trackers come closer together. - Louder.
It could save someone.
It has become quite popular among skiers.
- There are many people that carry them. - In case someone goes missing.
Are there any diseases that originated in your countries?
- From Japan, Grade eight syndrome? - Yes.
- I thought Se-yoon was the one that made it. - In Japan?
- Wasn't Se-yoon the first? - In 1999 in Japan,
there was a late night DJ host names Hikaru.
It's a disease called "Grade eight syndrome".
The reason it's called that is because...
it happens most often around the time a person is in grade eight.
- That is how it started. - I see.
- I see. - This is how it all got started.
- It came out quite early.- Yes.
There are some symptoms here.
For example, the person starts drinking black coffee.
- What's wrong with that? - With no particular reason.
Second, starts listening to foreign music.
Third, has daydreams about becoming a hero and fighting the bad guys.
Fourth, starts acting really cold toward parents.
- There are lists of behavioral symptoms of puberty. - I see.
That's how it gained popularity.
Tell us some more symptoms of "Grade eight syndrome".
- Grade eight syndrome? - What symptoms are there?
- What would a person with this disease say? - "Latte tastes better without milk".
- What does that mean? - Latte means milk.
- The idea is to say something cool with no logic. - That's tough.
Someone who is young trying to act like a grown-up.
- Like an adult. - Adult.
- Is it also called "Grade eight syndrome" in Japan? - Yes.
- It's the same sound as in Korean, Junibyo - Junibyo.
- Junibyo. - Junibyo.
Do you know the word "Nostalgia"?
- Of course. - I know the word.
It's generally used to mean when you miss home or some events in the past.
- It's not. - Do you know this?
(You already know the answer to this?)
Okay, I know what you are trying to do. Go ahead.
It has a positive feel to it but it is also very sad.
- It is sad. - It is sad.
Aurelien is so pessimistic.
Aurelien already said it was negative.
Nostalgia means pain.
- He knows it accurately. - I see.
- It is sad. - Actually,
this word was made by a Swiss doctor.
- The word nostalgia? - In 1688,
he created this word using 2 Greek words on his thesis.
The first word is "nestos".
"Nestos" means return home.
The other word is "algos" which means pain.
Nostalgia meant the pain of returning home.
The reason the word was created was because...
his thesis was based on the story of Swiss soldiers.
During that time, Swiss soldiers were infamous.
But the long periods of fighting away from home...
made the soldiers long for their country.
The soldiers became depressed and ill.
What is interesting is that in Korean the word longing "Keuripda"...
which is similar to the word in Japanese which is "Naskasi".
- This has a sense of positiveness. - Yes.
It expresses the joy when thinking about the past.
- It sounds good. But in Italian, - Yes.
nostalgia is the sadness felt when you want...
- to return but you can't - I see.
Isn't longing itself a feeling of sadness.
- Isn't that longing? - Isn't it?
It is not all fun and positive in Korean as well.
- Hey, I miss it!
I miss it a lot.
Okay, I long for it!
- It's not like that. - It's not.
- I miss it. - "Nakasi" is a little different.
It's the same feeling as in Korea.
(He keeps missing today.)
- He's gotten a lot wrong today. - Nakasi.
Nakasi. It's not the same.
- Well done. - Yes.
Psychological therapy in Korea...
was considered absolutely negative.
- They even changed the name to Mental Health Care. - Yes.
Tell us how psychological therapy is considered in your country.
In India, I have a very intelligent uncle...
but he has a problem with anger issues.
I told him once to go get some anger management therapy.
He got upset saying I had lived too many year aboard.
- How could you say I am crazy. - Do I look crazy to you?
In my country,
regardless of whether you are educated or not,
- they think you go to therapy only if you are crazy. - I see.
Simply to them, therapy is for crazy people.
Crazy is what they think.
In Pakistan, if you say you want to study psychiatry,
they think the person will soon go crazy.
Therefore, there aren't many doctors.
There is a big shortage.
There are a total of 200 million people,
- but there are only 380 psychiatrists. - Of what?
- Of what? - psychiatrists.
- Doctors? - Yes.
- Which means there is only one doctor for every 500,000 people. - Per person?
It is a serious shortage.
On top of that, they believe that a mental disease is a curse.
Instead of going to the doctor,
they go to fortune tellers.
- They rely more on fortune tellers than doctors. - They trust them more.
- Do they do rituals? - Yes. So, rather than get better...
it worsens their condition. They are not doctors.
There is more awareness in the US.
But they overdo it sometimes.
They overdiagnosis the symptoms. They prescribe too many drugs.
There's an illness called ADHD.
People with it have a hard time concentrating at school.
They could just be acting normally...
but they grab the child's hand and...
just hand over the drugs too easily.
- They give it to them too easily. - The medication they give is called Ritalin.
They give them the medication too easily.
When I was studying at an international school,
the US students were the only ones who had ADHD.
They became like that after they took it?
Do you have any special way to overcome the illness of the mind?
As the Korean saying goes, "The emperor has no clothes."
When I get stressed,
I go to the roof or the hill.
And in a loud voice I curse people.
- I feel great after I do it. - I was there as well.
- He was listening. - That's fine.
That's why I still go to Gwanaksan Mountain these days.
- Gwanaksan Mountain is nice. - When I need to, I go there.
- Be careful of your knees. - Who do you curse at on the mountain?
They have a temple on Gwanaksan Mountain.
It would be a little inappropriate to curse next to that place.
It's okay. I say it in Chinese.
It's okay. They don't understand.
If you curse in foreign language, you just add to your stress.
- You have to curse in your own language to feel better. - Right.
- That's true. - It makes it worse because you can't express it.
As I told you last time,
- I look at the stars. - But when you look at the stars...
- It makes you angry that you can't see the stars here, right? - It's always stars.
When I am stressed,
I like to think about the things that are far away.
My worries seem insignificant compared to that.
I get to think about that.
- Where do you go to see the stars? - When was the most recent time you got angry?
- When he got in the taxi. - When he was late.
- I think it was middle school. - Really?
- In middle school? - What happened in middle school?
I was very physical up until I was in my first year of middle school.
I have two ways.
- It doesn't relate... - Don't say your cellphone.
My cellphone...
I need my cellphone.
I have a secret social network account.
I'm not talking about my celebrity account. I'm talking about my private one.
I write and post things on it.
After I write about what made me angry,
I can clearly see the situation.
When I do that sometimes this helps to relieve my stress.
It doesn't matter if no one sees it, or write a comment on it.
You become someone else.
I write it like a diary and that helps.
The other way is...
I eat lots of delicious food and sleep.
- That's the best. - Yes, it is.
It's like I am telling my body...
that I am going to give it happiness through animalistic desires.
Accept this Gamjatang.
Make room for fried rice.
It's really nice to sleep while still eating.
- What? - Sleeping while you chew.
- That's the best. You can do nothing. - It seems like you misunderstood...
I think it's a good thing to lower all the restrictions.
The 117th Non Summit representative, Ho-ran's agenda was...
"I believe most contemporary people have an illness of the mind, am I abnormal?"
This is a worry that a lot of contemporary people are agonizing about.
- Should we listen to Oogi's opinion? - Yes.
Oogi, who is possibly the nicest person on the planet...
will tell Ho-ran a compassionate message.
This is a worry that a lot of contemporary people are agonizing about.
- Should we listen to Oogi's opinion? - Yes.
Oogi, who is possibly the nicest person on the planet...
will tell Ho-ran a compassionate message.
You talked about the book, "Courage to Be Disliked".
In Korea they call this "Courage to Be Disliked Two".
In Japan we just call it, "Courage to Be Happy"
So, Ho-ran from now on...
you have to have the courage to be happy.
And you should do this by looking at the stars.
(The advice to look at the stars will help heal her.)
Give him a round of applause.
Ho-ran, how did it feel to be on a variety show after such a long time?
I really did want to come on Non Summit Meeting.
After being on here...
it's even more fun than what I saw on TV.
There's more talk.
I feel like I have talked about myself a lot today.
It was very nice.
- Ho-ran, before you go, Lucky... - Yes?
would like to sing a song.
We'll let you do the closing song.
It's not going to be that good but please be understanding.
- If it's too much, we are going to run away. - Yes.
I would now like to adjourn our Non Summit Meeting
Until the day we all become normal
Ho-ran butterfly, fly away
We will close the meeting.
To stamp out corruption the Kim Young-ran Act was created.
There's a lot of controversy about the amount of the bribes and recipients.
The fact that such a law is being created...
means that this is a serious problem.
There are so many ways to avoid the law.
How can they know that it won't work without even trying it?
You don't have to go to that restaurant.
You can just invite them to your house. That's it.
I meant...
(Corruption buffet)
That's true.
I want to become an adult fast, am I abnormal?
- It's when you are 13 years old. - When you are 9 or 10 years old.
- You have to wear long pants. - You have to have chest hair.
- Aren't you agreeing too much? - You don't have to go to class.
- That's good. - You can't.
- If you don't study, - Are we living in the Joseon period?
There's no end to it.
(Monday night has become more mature.)
(Non Summit Meeting airs every Monday night at 10:50pm.)
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